<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[On The Margin ]]></title><description><![CDATA[Conversations outside the financial mainstream]]></description><link>https://www.on-the-margin.com</link><image><url>https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e7JY!,w_256,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a2938b7-441f-496d-a6d0-b04ba1ac2922_500x500.png</url><title>On The Margin </title><link>https://www.on-the-margin.com</link></image><generator>Substack</generator><lastBuildDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2026 22:45:06 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://www.on-the-margin.com/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><copyright><![CDATA[On The Margin]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><webMaster><![CDATA[substack@on-the-margin.com]]></webMaster><itunes:owner><itunes:email><![CDATA[substack@on-the-margin.com]]></itunes:email><itunes:name><![CDATA[On The Margin]]></itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author><![CDATA[On The Margin]]></itunes:author><googleplay:owner><![CDATA[substack@on-the-margin.com]]></googleplay:owner><googleplay:email><![CDATA[substack@on-the-margin.com]]></googleplay:email><googleplay:author><![CDATA[On The Margin]]></googleplay:author><itunes:block><![CDATA[Yes]]></itunes:block><item><title><![CDATA[10 Million Users Buy Crypto In MetaMask Through Him | Transak CEO Sami Start & Boaz Sobrado]]></title><description><![CDATA[He applied for the wrong regulatory license and had to redo the entire application from scratch.]]></description><link>https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/10-million-users-buy-crypto-in-metamask</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/10-million-users-buy-crypto-in-metamask</guid><pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2026 20:20:13 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/215424490/1367e697d6a426c4d62c181d660ebdda.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>He applied for the wrong regulatory license and had to redo the entire application from scratch. Now his company moves billions of dollars a day between fiat and crypto.<br><br>Sami Start co-founded Transak in 2019 to solve a simple problem: making it easy to convert between fiat currency and crypto or stablecoins directly inside third-party apps like MetaMask, Trust Wallet, and Phantom. The company has grown to serve over 10 million users through hundreds of integrated applications, holds licenses across the UK, EU, US, Canada, Australia, Hong Kong, and beyond, and now operates in roughly 90 countries worldwide, the notable exceptions being sanctioned nations like China, Iran, and North Korea.<br><br>Sami sits down with Boaz Sobrado to talk about the financial crime that comes with moving millions of dollars a day, the vulnerable people scammers specifically target, and why, years after crypto promised to end KYC hassles, you still have to verify your identity again every single time.<br><br>We cover:<br>Why Transak turned down building a prediction-market wallet integration<br>The wrong regulatory license that cost months of wasted paperwork<br>Why China, Iran, and North Korea are off the table, regardless of GDP<br>How Binance quietly relies on competitors like Transak for local payment rails<br>The UK's FinProm rules making it harder to onboard new users<br>Why "it hasn't been solved yet" is the honest answer on reusable KYC<br>The vulnerable customers scammers specifically target, and why Sami takes it personally<br>Where your passport data actually goes after you upload it for KYC<br>Wash trading and the fake user numbers of the early DApp era<br>Why crypto's "casino and speculation" era might finally be fading<br>Whether Transak wants to become the one company that owns all your financial data<br>The Binance, MetaMask, and Trust Wallet integrations behind the scenes<br>Billions of dollars processed, and the exact number Transak won't confirm<br>Getting an FCA license for anti-money laundering and consumer protection<br>Why spinning up a new crypto wallet to dodge fraud detection is trivially easy<br>The "stablecoin sandwich" and where global stablecoin demand really comes from<br><br></span>RESOURCES &amp; LINKS:<br>https://transak.com<br><span><br>MORE OF SAMI START:<br>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samistart</span><br><span><br>MORE OF ON THE MARGIN:<br>Website: https://www.themargin.tv<br></span></p><div class="apple-podcast-container" data-component-name="ApplePodcastToDom"><iframe class="apple-podcast episode-list" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://embed.podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042&quot;,&quot;isEpisode&quot;:false,&quot;imageUrl&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/podcast_1713090042.jpg&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;podcastTitle&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;podcastByline&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:3106,&quot;numEpisodes&quot;:63,&quot;targetUrl&quot;:&quot;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042?uo=4&quot;,&quot;releaseDate&quot;:&quot;2026-09-08T19:38:00Z&quot;}" src="https://embed.podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay *; 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leave a comment if you made it this far!</span></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[$5.7 Billion and a Mask, So Nobody Can Find Him | Silent Swap Founder Shibtoshi & Ivan Patriki]]></title><description><![CDATA[He turned 37 ETH into a Shiba Inu position that peaked at $5.7 billion, then walked away from his early Bitcoin rather than hand over his identity to a KYC form.]]></description><link>https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/57-billion-and-a-mask-so-nobody-can</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/57-billion-and-a-mask-so-nobody-can</guid><pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2026 16:34:23 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/212193347/927c9080f9d769bda882e1d659191bc6.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>He turned 37 ETH into a Shiba Inu position that peaked at $5.7 billion, then walked away from his early Bitcoin rather than hand over his identity to a KYC form.<br><br>Shibtoshi is the masked crypto billionaire behind Squid Grow and Silent Swap. He first heard about Bitcoin in 2010, bought his first coins in a Vegas OTC deal to fund an online poker game (and got wiped out), and was buying Litecoin and Namecoin back when Bitcoin traded in single digits. In 2013 he walked away from his Paxful and LocalBitcoins accounts rather than KYC, and did not come back for that Bitcoin until 2019.<br><br>Ivan Patriki sits down with him to talk luck, privacy as a human right, the tax game of collateralizing crypto instead of selling, and why he will never take the mask off on camera.<br><br>We cover:<br>37 ETH into Shiba Inu, and a portfolio that touched $5.7 billion<br>The Vegas poker night that pulled him down the Bitcoin rabbit hole (he lost it all)<br>Buying Bitcoin at $10 with MoneyGram, Western Union, and cash in the mail<br>Why he walked away from his accounts rather than KYC in 2013<br>The exchanges that shut down right after he pulled his coins out<br>"There is a difference between a crypto billionaire and a fiat billionaire"<br>Would you have actually held Bitcoin from $10 to $100K?<br>If he had to start over today: pour everything into AI<br>The arrogant-rich-guy phase, and why nobody likes it<br>Silent Swap: $2.5 billion in volume and cross chain private swaps<br>Why Monero is great until the second you leave its network<br>"There's nothing we could give anybody" (why records don't exist)<br>The Ledger co founder kidnapping and the three severed fingers<br>Collateralize your Bitcoin at $250K instead of paying 40% capital gains<br>Does anyone actually know who runs the financial system?<br><br>RESOURCES &amp; LINKS:<br>Silent Swap: https://www.silentswap.com/<br><br>Squid Grow: https://www.squidgrow.com/<br><br>MORE OF SHIBTOSHI:<br>Twitter: https://x.com/Shibtoshi_SG<br>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shibtoshi_sg/<br><br>MORE OF ON THE MARGIN:<br>Website: https://www.themargin.tv<br></span></p><div class="apple-podcast-container" data-component-name="ApplePodcastToDom"><iframe class="apple-podcast episode-list" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://embed.podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042&quot;,&quot;isEpisode&quot;:false,&quot;imageUrl&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/podcast_1713090042.jpg&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;podcastTitle&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;podcastByline&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:3683,&quot;numEpisodes&quot;:60,&quot;targetUrl&quot;:&quot;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042?uo=4&quot;,&quot;releaseDate&quot;:&quot;2026-08-19T19:52:00Z&quot;}" src="https://embed.podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay *; 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leave a comment if you made it this far!</span></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[They Rug Pulled My Fans Without Me | $POSITIONS Producer Brandon Daley & Ivan Patriki]]></title><description><![CDATA[He made a crypto movie called $Positions, and while it premiered at South By Southwest, scammers were busy launching meme coins in its name and rug pulling his fans.]]></description><link>https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/they-rug-pulled-my-fans-without-me</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/they-rug-pulled-my-fans-without-me</guid><pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2026 16:35:53 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/207493688/e14404b62623b05f4281e724da54b304.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>He made a crypto movie called $Positions, and while it premiered at South By Southwest, scammers were busy launching meme coins in its name and rug pulling his fans.<br><br>Brandon Daley is an independent filmmaker who spent 14 years selling power tools on the internet while self funding short films for $5,000 each. No Hollywood connections, no nepotism, no family money. He stayed in the Midwest, ground it out on the film festival circuit, and finally got a sub million dollar feature financed by Chicago indie investors. He paid himself $10,000 for four years of work.<br><br>Brandon and Ivan Patriki get into how indie films actually get funded, the moral quandary of taking money from first time investors, why influencer follower counts now decide which movies get made, and the strange saga of scammers launching $Positions meme coins off his trailer while he stayed clear of the whole thing.<br><br>We cover:<br>How a power tool merchandising director self funded his way into feature film<br>Why he purposefully stayed in the Midwest instead of moving to LA<br>The "arbitrage" between Chicago indie film and Hollywood<br>Why he refused to bring a first time investor onto his first feature<br>Roger Corman's exploitation thesis and the "Instagram Reels playbook" for shock value<br>"What if I released the whole movie in 30 second chunks on Instagram?"<br>Casting strangers off the street versus working with real actors ("it's like Bang Bus but with independent film")<br>Would he cast Andrew Tate? (and why it might hurt his Sundance chances)<br>Why a $20M budget is actually less scary than a six figure one<br>Paying himself $10,000 for four years of work so the crew could get paid<br>Vomiting every morning during pre production, and why the actors could never know<br>Why AI aids storytellers but threatens camera teams and actors<br>The $Positions meme coins, the rug pulls, and the scammer in Indonesia he felt "connected to"<br>Why crypto is the new lottery ticket for people looking for hope out of poverty<br>Real advice on chasing an idea before someone else grabs it<br><br>RESOURCES &amp; LINKS:<br><br>Watch $Positions:<br>Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B0GXZPXD4F?ref_=atv_dp_share_cu_r<br><br>Apple TV: https://tv.apple.com/us/movie/positions/umc.cmc.3yhlyu51vf1jdcrgoe87goidz<br><br>Youtube Movies:</span></p><div id="youtube2-tLu1yUhKYZw" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;tLu1yUhKYZw&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/tLu1yUhKYZw?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; 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Watch dealers are settling five-figure deals the same way. And credit cards can't keep up with either.<br><br>Will Harborne joined crypto in 2016, working at Tether back when the word "stablecoin" barely existed yet. He co-founded Ethfinex in 2017, one of the earliest Ethereum-based decentralized exchanges, which evolved through several rebrands (DeversiFi, then Rhino.fi) as the company grew from a retail cross-chain bridge that processed billions in volume and onboarded over two million users, into its current focus as B2B stablecoin infrastructure for fintechs and neobanks.<br><br>Now Rhino.fi's "stablecoin activation stack" lets businesses like Wirex, Plasma One, and a growing list of neobanks send and receive stablecoins across 35+ blockchains in under ten seconds, abstracting away the chain and token complexity entirely. Will sits down with Boaz Sobrado to talk about why time-critical, high-value payments are quietly exploding, why crypto's idealists feel betrayed by its own success, and what happens now that Wall Street's biggest fintechs are eating DeFi's lunch.<br><br>We cover:<br>Why private jets are paying for fuel with stablecoins mid-flight<br>The $50,000+ transactions that credit cards and banks can't settle fast enough<br>Rhino.fi's "smart deposit addresses" that work across every chain and stablecoin at once<br>Why crypto casinos and gambling platforms are a massive untapped stablecoin market<br>The Epic v. Apple ruling quietly opening the door for stablecoins in mobile gaming<br>Will's path from working at Tether in 2016 to building Rhino.fi<br>Why he believes crypto's idealists have been alienated by its own success<br>The joke that "the worst thing that happened to DeFi was Gary Gensler getting fired"<br>Why most governance tokens were doomed to fail from the start<br>Rhino.fi processing billions in volume and pivoting to enterprise B2B sales<br>Why non-USD stablecoins are finally taking off after years of false starts<br>How Rhino.fi nets transactions across clients like a Wise-style liquidity pool<br>Why Bitcoin still wins for the largest time-critical payments<br>Neobanks growing 30% month over month, and whether the incentives are sustainable<br>Why watch and jewelry dealers are quietly settling deals in stablecoins<br>The regulatory shift that let Revolut, Stripe, and other fintechs start eating DeFi's use cases<br><br>RESOURCES &amp; LINKS:<br></span>https://rhino.fi<br><span><br>MORE OF WILL HARBORNE:<br>LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/will-harborne<br><br>MORE OF ON THE MARGIN:<br>Website: https://www.themargin.tv<br></span></p><div class="apple-podcast-container" data-component-name="ApplePodcastToDom"><iframe class="apple-podcast episode-list" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://embed.podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042&quot;,&quot;isEpisode&quot;:false,&quot;imageUrl&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/podcast_1713090042.jpg&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;podcastTitle&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;podcastByline&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:3106,&quot;numEpisodes&quot;:63,&quot;targetUrl&quot;:&quot;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042?uo=4&quot;,&quot;releaseDate&quot;:&quot;2026-09-08T19:38:00Z&quot;}" src="https://embed.podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay *; encrypted-media *;" allowfullscreen="true"></iframe></div><p><span><br>Spotify:</span></p><iframe class="spotify-wrap podcast" data-attrs="{&quot;image&quot;:&quot;https://i.scdn.co/image/ab6765630000ba8a8ae2a21797ff2c72e773d006&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;subtitle&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;Podcast&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://open.spotify.com/show/77nHDRkVXrrrnq7Ivn5kWa&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;noScroll&quot;:false,&quot;isVideo&quot;:false}" src="https://open.spotify.com/embed/show/77nHDRkVXrrrnq7Ivn5kWa" frameborder="0" gesture="media" allowfullscreen="true" allow="encrypted-media" data-component-name="Spotify2ToDOM"></iframe><p><span><br>Main Site: https://www.on-the-margin.com<br><br>MORE OF BOAZ SOBRADO:<br>Twitter: https://x.com/sobradob<br>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sobradob<br>Website: https://themargin.tv/boaz-sobrado<br><br>MORE OF IVAN PATRIKI:<br>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/artizt<br>Substack: https://substack.com/@artizt<br>Twitter: https://x.com/Ivan_patriki<br>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/artizt/?hl=en<br>TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ascended<br>Telegram: https://t.me/ivanpatriki<br><br>Timestamps:<br><br>00:00 - Why private jets pay for fuel in stablecoins.<br>02:32 - Why big transactions get flagged and delayed by banks.<br>03:37 - What stablecoins are actually replacing.<br>04:46 - How Rhino.fi found this new wave of clients.<br>07:15 - Inside Rhino.fi's stablecoin activation stack.<br>09:26 - Smart deposit addresses: one address, every chain.<br>12:55 - Netting and rebalancing liquidity like Wise.<br>14:10 - Why crypto's true believers feel let down by its own success.<br>20:59 - Rhino.fi's pivot from DeFi purism to enterprise sales.<br>22:21 - The joke about Gary Gensler and DeFi's golden age.<br>26:21 - Why most governance tokens were doomed to fail.<br>27:44 - Does Bitcoin still have a place in high-value payments?<br>30:32 - Crypto casinos, gaming, and the fastest-growing use cases.<br>33:19 - How the Epic v. Apple ruling opens the door for gaming.<br>37:31 - Neobanks growing 30% a month, and whether it's sustainable.<br>39:14 - Why non-USD stablecoins are finally taking off.<br><br>Subscribe &amp; leave a comment if you made it this far!</span></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[He Turned $300 Into a Trillion$$ App | 1inch Co-Founder Sergej Kunz & Ivan Patriki]]></title><description><![CDATA[He nearly hit a trillion dollars in trades and never turned a profit on purpose.]]></description><link>https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/he-turned-300-into-a-trillion-app</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/he-turned-300-into-a-trillion-app</guid><pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2026 17:50:46 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/213788354/6e0c60290b558791c1da3351f8b2f025.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>He nearly hit a trillion dollars in trades and never turned a profit on purpose.<br><br>Sergej Kunz built 1inch out of a hackathon where he won just $300, enough to buy a plane ticket home to Germany. Two weeks later the site had real volume, and today 1inch has settled over $809 billion in trades across DeFi, powering partners like Coinbase along the way.<br><br>In this episode, Sergej and Ivan Patriki dig into why he still refuses to "extract value" from users, how a self-taught teenager (no degree, learning to code at a library computer) ended up running a 140-person network, and why he thinks the goal was never the money.<br><br>We cover:<br>The $300 hackathon prize that became an $809B protocol.<br>Why 1inch is named after Bruce Lee's one inch punch.<br>Sleeping on an airbag in an office with no shower while building 1inch.<br>Working at Porsche by day, flying to hackathons on weekends.<br>17 hackathons in 13 months, and only one idea got adoption.<br>Aqua: a brand new liquidity protocol that lives on your own wallet.<br>100+ trading pairs sharing the same liquidity (SpaceX to NVIDIA to Apple).<br>Why 85% of liquidity in traditional AMMs sits idle.<br>Cross-chain swaps with no bridge you have to trust.<br>How to actually pick a co-founder (and the "70/30" trap).<br>"We were never profitable, I would say" and why that's the point.<br>Why tokenized stocks (RWAs) move differently than crypto.<br>Robinhood, RWAs, and institutions arriving as DeFi's gatekeepers.<br>Kidnappings, cut-off fingers, and why crypto still needs privacy.<br>Can you rebuild 1inch's Python in two weeks with AI now?<br>The one piece of advice: experiment 50 times, expect to fail 49.<br><br>RESOURCES &amp; LINKS:<br>1inch: https://1inch.io<br><br>MORE OF SERGEJ KUNZ:<br>Twitter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deacix0/<br>LinkedIn: https://x.com/deacix<br><br>MORE OF ON THE MARGIN:<br>Website: https://www.themargin.tv<br></span></p><div class="apple-podcast-container" data-component-name="ApplePodcastToDom"><iframe class="apple-podcast episode-list" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://embed.podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042&quot;,&quot;isEpisode&quot;:false,&quot;imageUrl&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/podcast_1713090042.jpg&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;podcastTitle&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;podcastByline&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:2542,&quot;numEpisodes&quot;:62,&quot;targetUrl&quot;:&quot;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042?uo=4&quot;,&quot;releaseDate&quot;:&quot;2026-08-29T23:10:00Z&quot;}" src="https://embed.podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay *; 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leave a comment if you made it this far!</span></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[One Rejection Built a $5 Billion Crypto Empire | MoonPay CEO Ivan Soto-Wright & Ivan Patriki]]></title><description><![CDATA[Buying Bitcoin with a card used to cost 17% in fees.]]></description><link>https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/one-rejection-built-a-5-billion-crypto</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/one-rejection-built-a-5-billion-crypto</guid><pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2026 19:38:41 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/213443864/d8a4e12c10f0d555a1732cd5a1fea1fc.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>Buying Bitcoin with a card used to cost 17% in fees. This is the founder who thought that was insane, bootstrapped a fix on 365% annual loans, and built it into a $5B company.<br><br>Ivan Soto-Wright is the co-founder and CEO of MoonPay, the on-ramp plugged into MetaMask, Phantom, and just about every major crypto wallet you have used. Over 35 million people have run crypto through it. He started with zero payments background, got kicked off Stripe for touching crypto, and turned the lights on with a single acquirer that said yes.<br><br>In this one, Ivan and Ivan Patriki get into how MoonPay went from a card-to-crypto ramp to an "operating system for global value movement," and the wild new frontier: letting an AI agent hold a wallet and spend your money for you.<br><br>We cover:<br>Why buying Bitcoin with a card cost 17% (and why "your margin is my opportunity")<br>The Stripe ban that almost killed MoonPay before it started<br>Bootstrapping on loans at 1% a day (that is 365% a year, and yes it was legal enough)<br>Vitamin businesses vs painkiller businesses (and why his first startup failed)<br>$27 trillion moved over stablecoin rails last year<br>Why USDC is banned in Canada<br>Pay Box: giving Claude or ChatGPT a non-custodial wallet without handing over your private key<br>Booking an EasyJet flight inside Claude by sending USDC to an X402 endpoint<br>"Can I tell Claude to find me a girlfriend?"<br>Why an AI agent may manage your yield better than you do<br>Getting "interesting letters from three-letter agencies" under the last administration<br>Why banks like Chase still reject crypto card transactions (and why that is changing)<br>16 acquisitions in two and a half years, mostly aqua-hires for entrepreneurial DNA<br>Innovate or die: how MoonPay avoids becoming a stagnant PayPal<br>Grit, poker, and eating glass: the founder mindset<br>Taking over the X Games to make crypto part of culture<br><br>RESOURCES &amp; LINKS:<br>Check out MoonPay: https://www.moonpay.com<br><br>MORE OF IVAN SOTO-WRIGHT:<br>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/isotowright/<br><br>MORE OF ON THE MARGIN:<br>Website: https://www.themargin.tv<br></span></p><div class="apple-podcast-container" data-component-name="ApplePodcastToDom"><iframe class="apple-podcast episode-list" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://embed.podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042&quot;,&quot;isEpisode&quot;:false,&quot;imageUrl&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/podcast_1713090042.jpg&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;podcastTitle&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;podcastByline&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:2542,&quot;numEpisodes&quot;:61,&quot;targetUrl&quot;:&quot;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042?uo=4&quot;,&quot;releaseDate&quot;:&quot;2026-08-29T23:10:00Z&quot;}" src="https://embed.podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay *; 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leave a comment if you made it this far!</span></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[I spoke with the Mayor, Police Chief, & City Manager of Miami | The secret behind the city]]></title><description><![CDATA[Miami&#8217;s mayor, police chief, and city manager all sat down separately with Ivan Patriki and between them: a $450 million bond, a police force that (probably) didn&#8217;t chase aliens, and what it actually takes to run one of the fastest-growing cities in America.]]></description><link>https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/i-spoke-with-the-mayor-police-chief</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/i-spoke-with-the-mayor-police-chief</guid><pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2026 23:10:17 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/212920584/28446b772632d161b76683dc5ea56657.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>Miami&#8217;s mayor, police chief, and city manager all sat down separately with Ivan Patriki and between them: a $450 million bond, a police force that (probably) didn&#8217;t chase aliens, and what it actually takes to run one of the fastest-growing cities in America.<br><br>The Mayor, Eileen Higgins spent almost 20 years as an engineer in the private sector before a corporate retreat exercise, writing her own obituary convinced her something was missing. Within a year she quit to become the Peace Corps director in Belize, then served as a U.S. diplomat in Mexico and southern Africa. She joined the Miami-Dade County Commission in 2018 and, in December 2025, was sworn in as Miami&#8217;s first female mayor and first Democratic mayor in nearly 30 years.<br><br>James Reyes was born in Cuba, the son of a political prisoner, and grew up in Hialeah after his family fled with nothing. He spent 22 years at the Broward Sheriff&#8217;s Office, eventually managing a $1.8 billion budget and 5,600 employees, then became Miami-Dade&#8217;s Chief of Public Safety and ran unsuccessfully for County Sheriff in 2024. Higgins appointed him Miami&#8217;s city manager in early 2026.<br><br>Edwin Lopez built a nearly three-decade law enforcement career from phys-ed teacher to Miami-Dade Schools&#8217; first Hispanic police chief, then Doral&#8217;s chief, before being sworn in this June as the 44th Chief of the Miami Police Department describing himself as &#8220;a humble kid from Miami who grew up with no money.&#8221;<br><br>All three sit down separately with Ivan Patriki to talk about running the Magic City from three completely different chairs.<br><br>We cover:<br>Why the mayor says climate change is real, &#8220;a hundred and ten percent&#8221;<br>Eileen Higgins&#8217;s corporate epiphany: writing her own obituary before quitting for the Peace Corps<br>Serving as a U.S. diplomat in Mexico and southern Africa before running for office<br>Building four thousand affordable housing units, three thousand more in the pipeline<br>A $450 million bond for fire stations unrepaired for fifty years<br>Same-day permitting: cutting an eighteen-month process down to one day<br>James Reyes on being the son of a political prisoner who fled Cuba for Hialeah<br>Managing a $1.8 billion budget and 5,600 employees at the Broward Sheriff&#8217;s Office<br>What two different officials actually think about crypto in Miami<br>Whether Mark Zuckerberg moved to Miami because of the city&#8217;s leadership (spoiler: no)<br>Edwin Lopez on inheriting &#8220;the keys to the Lamborghini&#8221; from two predecessors<br>The alien rumor Chief Lopez &#8220;can&#8217;t confirm or deny&#8221;<br>Nearly 1,400 officers and 600,000 FIFA Fan Fest visitors in 23 days<br>Would a Ferrari doing 25 over the limit get you a warning?<br><br>MORE OF MAYOR EILEEN HIGGINS:<br>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eileen-higgins/<br><br>MORE OF CITY MANAGER JAMES REYES:<br>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-reyes-78444116b/<br><br>MORE OF POLICE CHIEF EDWIN LOPEZ:<br>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chiefedwinlopez/<br><br>MORE OF ON THE MARGIN:<br>Website: https://www.themargin.tv<br></span></p><div class="apple-podcast-container" data-component-name="ApplePodcastToDom"><iframe class="apple-podcast episode-list" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://embed.podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042&quot;,&quot;isEpisode&quot;:false,&quot;imageUrl&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/podcast_1713090042.jpg&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; 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James Reyes takes the mic.<br>02:54 - Did Zuckerberg move to Miami because of him?<br>08:49 - Does the city manager still go clubbing?<br>11:44 - Managing a $1.8 billion budget before Miami.<br>13:20 - Is there a secret power pulling the strings?<br>19:19 - The most famous people he&#8217;s actually met.<br>22:20 - &#8220;You are the mayor of Miami.&#8221; Higgins takes the reins.<br>23:30 - How much of her week is spent clubbing?<br>24:01 - Writing her own obituary changed everything.<br>25:28 - Four thousand affordable housing units, more coming.<br>26:00 - Do other mayors send hate mail?<br>29:17 - Is climate change real? &#8220;110%.&#8221;<br>29:28 - Is there a shadowy group telling her what to do?<br>30:19 - Same-day permitting: 18 months down to one day.<br>31:02 - A $450 million bond for fifty-year-old fire stations.<br>32:09 - Her one piece of advice for the next mayor.<br>32:22 - Nearly 1,400 officers and how policing has changed.<br>33:25 - Did Miami police really respond to an alien sighting?<br>33:50 - The hardest part of the job nobody understands.<br>35:02 - Does the police force own any crypto?<br>35:16 - FIFA Fan Fest: 600,000 visitors in 23 days.<br>36:29 - &#8220;Keys to the Lamborghini&#8221;: inheriting Miami PD&#8217;s legacy.<br>38:11 - Would a Ferrari doing 25 over get you a warning?<br><br>Subscribe &amp; leave a comment if you made it this far!</span></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[He Left JP Morgan to Let AI Move $Trillions For You | T54 Founder Chandler Fung & Ivan Patriki]]></title><description><![CDATA[A JP Morgan quant trader walked away from Wall Street to build the trust layer that lets AI agents spend your money.]]></description><link>https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/he-left-jp-morgan-to-let-ai-move</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/he-left-jp-morgan-to-let-ai-move</guid><pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2026 23:50:57 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/210002107/1ba7f7d6a08ea97963272fc02752d910.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>A JP Morgan quant trader walked away from Wall Street to build the trust layer that lets AI agents spend your money.<br><br>Chandler Fung went from the JP Morgan trading floor to Onyx, the bank's blockchain and AI payments team, to years at Ripple building cross border stablecoin rails. In early 2025 he founded T54, a company solving one problem almost nobody is: how do you trust an AI agent to touch your money?<br><br>Backed from day zero by Ripple, Franklin Templeton and others, Chandler and Ivan Patriki dig into what happens when 30% of your daily transactions get delegated to agents, why finance is the one sector you cannot waltz into, and what it actually takes to earn a seat check from a company worth billions.<br><br>We cover:<br>Why an AI agent booking your cheeseburger is a bigger risk problem than it sounds<br>The moment you ask GPT to buy something and everything that can silently go wrong<br>How a day zero startup lands Ripple and Franklin Templeton as seed investors<br>"Idea is cheap" and why execution and a real moat matter more<br>Is trading on Elliott Waves and ICT legit, or just momentum vs sentiment fishing?<br>What quant traders actually do (and why everyone using the same strategy breaks)<br>Why he left a lucrative quant seat to build products for humans instead of numbers<br>The three pillars before you start a company: team, execution, moat<br>Why 90% of successful startups end up doing something other than their original idea<br>Why he feels safe putting $2M in Chase but nervous moving it to a cold wallet<br>Can a startup become the "Chase-level trust" of the agentic economy?<br>When do you stop chasing money and start chasing impact?<br>Marathon vs sprint: the patience trap almost every young founder falls into<br><br>MORE OF CHANDLER FUNG:<br><br>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/znfang<br><br>Twitter: https://x.com/chandler_agi<br><br>Company (T54): https://www.t54.ai/<br><br>MORE OF ON THE MARGIN:<br>Website: https://www.themargin.tv<br></span></p><div class="apple-podcast-container" data-component-name="ApplePodcastToDom"><iframe class="apple-podcast episode-list" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://embed.podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042&quot;,&quot;isEpisode&quot;:false,&quot;imageUrl&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/podcast_1713090042.jpg&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; 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leave a comment if you made it this far!</span></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA["I Move $7 Billion for People Who Hate Index Funds" | IRA Financial's Adam Bergman & Ivan Patriki]]></title><description><![CDATA[A tax lawyer quit his big-law job to bet everything on an idea Wall Street had buried for 50 years, and now he moves $7 billion for clients who invest their retirement money in Bitcoin, real estate, and private deals instead of index funds.]]></description><link>https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/i-move-7-billion-for-people-who-hate</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/i-move-7-billion-for-people-who-hate</guid><pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2026 19:52:02 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/207448000/6255a43480cd6eb5c3333223ecac4b1f.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>A tax lawyer quit his big-law job to bet everything on an idea Wall Street had buried for 50 years, and now he moves $7 billion for clients who invest their retirement money in Bitcoin, real estate, and private deals instead of index funds.<br><br>Adam Bergman is the founder of IRA Financial. He started with zero clients, zero assets, and one phone line in his apartment, bootstrapped it on Google Ads, took no salary for five years, and built a regulated trust company custodying over $7 billion for 30,000 clients. In this episode Adam and Ivan Patriki dig into the retirement loophole most Americans have never heard of, why the truly wealthy hold 60 to 70% of their money in alternative assets, and what it actually takes to survive the decade it takes to build a real business.<br><br>We cover:<br>The retirement rule almost nobody knows: only THREE things you cannot buy in an IRA<br>Why owning the S&amp;P 500 means you basically own seven companies (and that is not diversification)<br>How the rich actually got rich (hint: it was not stocks and bonds)<br>$39 trillion in US retirement money and why the big banks wall you off from it<br>Adam's first client story: going live on Google Ads with no office and no idea what to do next<br>"Make mistakes with other people's money" and other advice from his entrepreneur father<br>The 5-year stretch where he and his wife "did literally nothing" while friends got rich<br>His biggest CEO mistake: not hiring people smarter than himself<br>Bitcoin in 2015, a friend told him it was a scam, and the risk/reward math he used anyway<br>Why he almost took the company public 7 years too early (and dodged a disaster)<br>"If you're not gonna quit, just shut up and fight"<br>No Adderall, no ketamine, no McLaren: water, coffee, and a morning run<br>The one platform in the country to trade stocks, crypto, and alt assets in a retirement account for one flat fee<br>What every young person who "wants to be successful" is getting wrong<br><br>RESOURCES &amp; 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Just water and a run.<br>43:51 - What the billionaires actually hold in their portfolios.<br>49:42 - One man sells his house for Bitcoin, another retires middle class.<br>51:06 - The one platform for stocks, crypto, and alt assets.<br>54:03 - Why taking a percentage of your gains is "criminal."<br>56:39 - Advice for the young person who wants to be successful.<br>01:01:18 - Why buying a course won't make you rich.<br><br>Make sure to like, comment, and share, and I'll see you in the next one.</span></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[He Runs the Blockchain That Moved $2.5 Trillion | Polygon CEO Marc Boiron & Ivan Patriki]]></title><description><![CDATA[He slept three to four hours a night for two years straight, and he says he'd do it again for the payoff.]]></description><link>https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/he-runs-the-blockchain-that-moved</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/he-runs-the-blockchain-that-moved</guid><pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2026 21:48:02 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/209494480/08ffd8d662a55a945725d681fe7b8e09.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>He slept three to four hours a night for two years straight, and he says he'd do it again for the payoff.<br><br>Marc Boiron went from a self described "accidental lawyer" to running roughly 70 to 80% of all DeFi legal work, to becoming CEO of Polygon, the blockchain that has moved over 2.5 trillion dollars. In this episode Marc and Ivan Patriki get into how he actually got the job, why Polygon bet everything on payments, the Meta, Cash App and Deel deals, and a blunt philosophy on sleep, suffering, and happiness that Ivan clearly did not expect.<br><br>We cover:<br>From no homework kid to CEO of a company that moved 2.5 trillion dollars<br>Why betting on crypto when everyone said it was dead in 2019 was the whole game<br>"There's basically no lawyers doing this crypto thing" and how that became 80% of DeFi<br>Generalist vs specialist in the age of AI (Marc picks a side)<br>Why being a great CEO comes down to just one thing: people<br>Being genuinely happy when your best employee leaves for more money<br>The interview question Marc asks everyone: "what makes you want to be successful?"<br>Why he'll fire a top performer who treats people like garbage<br>Why Polygon stopped chasing gaming, RWAs and DeFi to become a payments only chain<br>An off-ramp in Turkey, a remittance app vibe coded in five hours<br>How you actually land a deal with Meta (and why the CEO is the wrong person to pitch)<br>The salesman who bought a game ticket to corner a basketball team owner who ignored his emails<br>Should Polygon care what people spend their money on? Permissionless vs regulated<br>"Who enjoys their life when they're ninety anyways?"<br>Sleep six hours a night in your twenties or you're crazy<br>Two years of torture for 35 years of happiness: how easy is that decision?<br><br>MORE OF MARC BOIRON:<br><br>Twitter/X: https://x.com/0xMarcB<br><br>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcboiron<br><br>RESOURCES &amp; LINKS:<br><br>Polygon: https://polygon.technology<br><br>MORE OF ON THE MARGIN:<br>Website: https://www.themargin.tv<br></span></p><div class="apple-podcast-container" data-component-name="ApplePodcastToDom"><iframe class="apple-podcast episode-list" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://embed.podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042&quot;,&quot;isEpisode&quot;:false,&quot;imageUrl&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/podcast_1713090042.jpg&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;podcastTitle&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; 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leave a comment if you made it this far!</span></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Man Behind Variety & Billboard Reveals How Media Controls You | Penske Media Founder Lee Caplin & Ivan Patriki]]></title><description><![CDATA[He was alone in the Oval Office with JFK at fifteen years old, and that was just the beginning.]]></description><link>https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/the-man-behind-variety-and-billboard</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/the-man-behind-variety-and-billboard</guid><pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2026 23:51:22 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/210374385/3d6462f7e311075e671dd1608e4e32b6.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>He was alone in the Oval Office with JFK at fifteen years old, and that was just the beginning.<br><br>Lee Caplin has lived several lives: Justice Department lawyer protecting free speech, co-founder of the company that became Penske Media (Variety, Hollywood Reporter, Billboard), arts administrator, and now the architect of the journalism and media school at Florida International University. He sat down with Ivan Patriki to talk about how media quietly molds public opinion, the difference between reporting and news entertainment, and why he never lets anyone in the room who's expecting a "yes" for the wrong reasons.<br><br>From subwoofers that raise your tension on cable news to Chinese military money and the Paramount deal, this is a conversation about who really shapes what you think, and how AI, robotics, and rare earth mining fit into what comes next.<br><br>We cover:<br>Being alone in the Oval Office with JFK at fifteen (and the tie clip story)<br>Why FIU is "the third world rim" gateway for immigrants chasing the American dream<br>Protecting free speech and wetlands as a fresh law grad inside the US government<br>How Velocity Services became Penske Media and swallowed Variety, Billboard and Hollywood Reporter<br>The real difference between journalism, media, and mass communications<br>"News entertainment" vs. news: how sound design puts you on edge without you noticing<br>Hemingway and Joan Didion as journalists first, novelists second<br>Do governments quietly pay media to promote an ideology? (and why it's technically lobbying)<br>Chinese military money, Larry Ellison, and the Paramount/CBS ownership question<br>Fake news and deepfakes as an actual FIU course<br>Why you still need to physically go to college in the ChatGPT era<br>Secret societies, Skull and Bones, and the Raven Society sold on eBay<br>Why he's not afraid of AI (and why it won't be Terminator)<br>AI-controlled robots collecting samples from the sea floor off Florida<br>Rare earth mining with a scalpel instead of a broadsword<br>His advice for building a "new elite": consistency, reliability, and no class consciousness<br><br>MORE OF LEE CAPLIN:<br>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lee-caplin-89981666/<br>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leecaplin/<br><br><br>MORE OF ON THE MARGIN:<br>Website: https://www.themargin.tv<br></span></p><div class="apple-podcast-container" data-component-name="ApplePodcastToDom"><iframe class="apple-podcast episode-list" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://embed.podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042&quot;,&quot;isEpisode&quot;:false,&quot;imageUrl&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/podcast_1713090042.jpg&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;podcastTitle&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;podcastByline&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:2490,&quot;numEpisodes&quot;:55,&quot;targetUrl&quot;:&quot;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042?uo=4&quot;,&quot;releaseDate&quot;:&quot;2026-07-31T18:25:00Z&quot;}" src="https://embed.podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay *; encrypted-media *;" allowfullscreen="true"></iframe></div><p><span><br>Spotify:</span></p><iframe class="spotify-wrap podcast" data-attrs="{&quot;image&quot;:&quot;https://i.scdn.co/image/ab6765630000ba8a8ae2a21797ff2c72e773d006&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;subtitle&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;Podcast&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://open.spotify.com/show/77nHDRkVXrrrnq7Ivn5kWa&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;noScroll&quot;:false,&quot;isVideo&quot;:false}" src="https://open.spotify.com/embed/show/77nHDRkVXrrrnq7Ivn5kWa" frameborder="0" gesture="media" allowfullscreen="true" allow="encrypted-media" data-component-name="Spotify2ToDOM"></iframe><p><span><br>Main Site: https://www.on-the-margin.com<br><br>MORE OF BOAZ SOBRADO: <br>Twitter: https://x.com/sobradob<br>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sobradob<br>Website: https://themargin.tv/boaz-sobrado<br><br>MORE OF IVAN PATRIKI: <br>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/artizt<br>Substack: https://substack.com/@artizt<br>Twitter: https://x.com/Ivan_patriki<br>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/artizt/?hl=en<br>TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ascended<br>Telegram: https://t.me/ivanpatriki<br><br>Timestamps:<br><br>00:00 - Overseeing FIU, the gateway to the "third world rim."<br>02:21 - From Duke and UVA law to protecting free speech inside government.<br>04:14 - Camelot, Cronkite, and growing up around journalists.<br>07:00 - The secret to staying present: let someone else take the credit.<br>08:31 - Building the media empire that became Penske Media.<br>09:43 - How media molds public opinion without you realizing.<br>10:01 - Journalism vs. media vs. mass communications.<br>12:56 - Short attention spans, sound design, and news entertainment.<br>14:34 - Do governments quietly pay to push an ideology? The Paramount problem.<br>16:21 - Teaching fake news and deepfakes at FIU.<br>16:41 - The bridge from LA media to Florida education.<br>18:19 - Alone in the Oval Office with JFK at fifteen.<br>20:33 - Helping campaigns instead of running for office.<br>21:21 - Why you still need to physically go to college.<br>23:00 - Secret societies, Skull and Bones, and the Raven Society.<br>26:01 - Vision for the future: AI, robots, and no Terminator.<br>27:42 - AI, rare earth mining, and robots on the sea floor.<br>30:27 - Advice for building a new elite.<br><br>Subscribe &amp; leave a comment if you made it this far!</span></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Crypto $Billionaire Building Governments From Scratch | Sign CEO Xin Yan & Ivan Patriki]]></title><description><![CDATA[What if AI ran the government, and a private company built the digital money and IDs to make it possible?]]></description><link>https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/the-crypto-billionaire-building-governments</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/the-crypto-billionaire-building-governments</guid><pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2026 12:06:54 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/208484504/dddf3bb6d9085afa19d3aaac01c7f1d7.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>What if AI ran the government, and a private company built the digital money and IDs to make it possible? Xin Yan is doing exactly that, for over a dozen countries.<br><br>Xin Yan started as a crypto mining engineer and built Token Table into 40% market share of token distribution before pivoting his company into something almost no one else in crypto is doing: building sovereign digital infrastructure (stablecoins, CBDCs, and digital ID) directly for governments. He is now working with UAE, Pakistan, Kyrgyzstan, Bhutan, Barbados, Sierra Leone, and more, with backing from the UAE government and Binance.<br><br>In this episode Xin Yan and Ivan Patriki get into digital sovereignty, why governments (not Google or Palantir) might be the safer place for your data, UBI paid out like an airdrop, and the case for an AI Prime Minister.<br><br>We cover:<br>Building digital money and digital ID for over a dozen governments<br>Why crypto adoption failed: nobody worked with the gatekeeper<br>"If an entity has all your data, better the government than Palantir"<br>UBI distributed like claiming an airdrop straight from the Treasury<br>A selfie to prove you had a baby, then the government sends money?<br>Is centralizing everything into one digital ID dystopian?<br>How the world's payment rails are controlled by just two countries<br>Getting endorsed by the UAE government and Binance (sometimes CZ directly)<br>Why governments don't get "high" on Bitcoin, they just want the problem solved<br>His prediction: how soon until an AI Prime Minister exists<br>His crypto portfolio (mostly Bitcoin) and why his mom out-traded him on Doge<br>Real free time: walks, smoking, and people-watching to reset<br>Why you should "trust blockchain more" (POW) and fear centralized AI<br>The yin-yang of centralization and decentralization, and why Bitcoin was born in 2008<br>How to actually use Bitcoin privately when KYC is everywhere<br><br>MORE OF XIN YAN:<br>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xin-yan-658545172/<br>Twitter: https://x.com/realyanxin<br><br>MORE OF ON THE MARGIN:<br>Website: https://www.themargin.tv<br></span></p><div class="apple-podcast-container" data-component-name="ApplePodcastToDom"><iframe class="apple-podcast episode-list" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://embed.podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042&quot;,&quot;isEpisode&quot;:false,&quot;imageUrl&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/podcast_1713090042.jpg&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;podcastTitle&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;podcastByline&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:3002,&quot;numEpisodes&quot;:52,&quot;targetUrl&quot;:&quot;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042?uo=4&quot;,&quot;releaseDate&quot;:&quot;2026-07-15T16:32:00Z&quot;}" src="https://embed.podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay *; encrypted-media *;" allowfullscreen="true"></iframe></div><p><span><br>Spotify:</span></p><iframe class="spotify-wrap podcast" data-attrs="{&quot;image&quot;:&quot;https://i.scdn.co/image/ab6765630000ba8a8ae2a21797ff2c72e773d006&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;subtitle&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;Podcast&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://open.spotify.com/show/77nHDRkVXrrrnq7Ivn5kWa&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;noScroll&quot;:false,&quot;isVideo&quot;:false}" src="https://open.spotify.com/embed/show/77nHDRkVXrrrnq7Ivn5kWa" frameborder="0" gesture="media" allowfullscreen="true" allow="encrypted-media" data-component-name="Spotify2ToDOM"></iframe><p><span><br>Main Site: https://www.on-the-margin.com<br><br>MORE OF BOAZ SOBRADO: <br>Twitter: https://x.com/sobradob<br>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sobradob<br>Website: https://themargin.tv/boaz-sobrado<br><br>MORE OF IVAN PATRIKI: <br>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/artizt<br>Substack: https://substack.com/@artizt<br>Twitter: https://x.com/Ivan_patriki<br>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/artizt/?hl=en<br>TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ascended<br>Telegram: https://t.me/ivanpatriki<br><br>Timestamps:<br><br>00:00 - Building sovereign digital money and ID for governments.<br>01:03 - The dozen countries he already works with.<br>02:06 - From crypto mining geek to B2G, why crypto needed the government.<br>05:25 - Is a government digital ID a privacy nightmare?<br>07:22 - Digital ID and digital money: the two pillars of a digitized state.<br>09:30 - UBI paid out like an airdrop straight from the Treasury.<br>11:45 - "Isn't this dystopian?" Centralized control vs Palantir.<br>15:41 - His first government contract and how trust gets built.<br>18:43 - Getting backed by the UAE and Binance (sometimes CZ himself).<br>22:34 - Digital sovereignty, war, and who can debank a whole country.<br>24:05 - National stablecoins vs USDT, and why the Fed is weird.<br>26:50 - His portfolio: mostly Bitcoin, and mom's Doge bag.<br>27:31 - His mindset, sleep schedule, and thinking about the future.<br>29:45 - The case for an AI Prime Minister.<br>33:35 - Why the day-to-day is small problems, not grand ideation.<br>35:04 - Free time: walks, smoking, and people-watching.<br>37:12 - The future: real-time, multi-currency, P2P global payments.<br>40:40 - Advice: travel and talk to enough people.<br>41:31 - Trust blockchain, fear centralized AI, and the yin-yang of power.<br>43:53 - Monero, and how to actually use Bitcoin privately.<br><br>Subscribe &amp; leave a comment if you made it this far!</span></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The $Trillion Gambling Empire Run by Crime | YieldSec's Ismail Vali & Ivan Patriki]]></title><description><![CDATA[The number that roulette wheel lands on isn't random, it's the one you didn't bet on.]]></description><link>https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/the-trillion-gambling-empire-run</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/the-trillion-gambling-empire-run</guid><pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2026 19:13:47 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/207593944/9ff560673e34f677eef958a638dee9c7.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>The number that roulette wheel lands on isn't random, it's the one you didn't bet on.<br><br>Ismail Vali runs YieldSec and GCI, the intelligence platforms that map how illegal online gambling actually operates. He calls it the third largest economic flow on earth, and most of it is controlled by transnational criminal organizations that didn't come to give you good odds. They came to steal from you. In this conversation with Ivan Patriki, Ismail breaks down why "black market" is a name crime gave itself, how the pandemic turned fake amateur sports into a clickbait machine, and why the games are rigged whether you can see it or not.<br><br>We cover:<br>"Who am I harming if I place this bet?" (the answer is you)<br>Why unregulated gambling actively avoids being regulated, audited, or checked<br>Illegal streaming as a window into your digital soul for 90 minutes<br>"You are the product" and how crime uses your data to steal, not to sell<br>The iceberg: legal gambling is the visible tip, crime is the sea below the waterline<br>How the UK went from 0% to 9% illegal share by targeting children and self-excluded gamblers<br>Human trafficking farms in Cambodia and Myanmar running live dealer casinos and scams<br>How the pandemic killed sports and illegal gambling invented snail racing and fake cricket matches<br>Why casino is the product everyone wants you in (10-50% margins vs 10% on sports)<br>Brazil regulated gambling, then handed 60% of the market back to crime in months<br>Attractive influencers flown to Miami cribs so they can't be arrested back home<br>The Charlamagne tha God gambling scandal in the hip-hop community<br>FC Barcelona's sponsor is illegal in most markets it takes money from<br>Why VPNs are a complete myth (latency kills live betting)<br>Polymarket, Kalshi, and "it's not gambling, it's trading"<br>How prediction markets are tanking voter turnout and getting people investigated for insider trading<br>Why the "gray market" doesn't exist and Malta passed a law so you can't claw your money back<br><br>RESOURCES &amp; LINKS:<br>YieldSec: https://www.yieldsec.com/<br>Campaign for Fairer Gambling (Derek Webb): https://www.fairergambling.com/<br><br>MORE OF ISMAIL VALI:<br>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ismailvali/<br>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ismailvali_/<br><br>MORE OF ON THE MARGIN:<br>Website: https://www.themargin.tv<br></span></p><div class="apple-podcast-container" data-component-name="ApplePodcastToDom"><iframe class="apple-podcast episode-list" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://embed.podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042&quot;,&quot;isEpisode&quot;:false,&quot;imageUrl&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/podcast_1713090042.jpg&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;podcastTitle&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;podcastByline&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:3002,&quot;numEpisodes&quot;:51,&quot;targetUrl&quot;:&quot;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042?uo=4&quot;,&quot;releaseDate&quot;:&quot;2026-07-15T16:32:00Z&quot;}" src="https://embed.podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay *; 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leave a comment if you made it this far</span></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Mr Beast Deal That Built a $3 Billion Company | Surfshark CMO Regimantas Urbanas & Ivan Patriki]]></title><description><![CDATA[How a company from a country of 3 million built a brand everybody knows, and paid Mr Beast seven figures to do it.]]></description><link>https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/the-mr-beast-deal-that-built-a-3</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/the-mr-beast-deal-that-built-a-3</guid><pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2026 18:25:36 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/208109927/949675a6f0f77f13d99d9b6d69edd50a.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How a company from a country of 3 million built a brand everybody knows, and paid Mr Beast seven figures to do it.</p><p>Regimantas Urbanas is one of the first employees and now CMO of Surfshark, the Lithuanian cybersecurity company that launched into a saturated VPN market in 2018 and turned into part of a $3 billion group. He joined three months after the product went live, gave the brand its meaning, and helped scale it from the first 10,000 users to millions through Google Ads, affiliates, creator marketing, and full on guerrilla campaigns.</p><p>In this conversation with Ivan Patriki, recorded inside the Surfshark office, Regimantas breaks down how you actually grow a global brand out of a tiny domestic market, why creator marketing beat traditional advertising, and how AI is quietly making everyday people the new scam targets.</p><p>We cover:</p><p>Why everybody and their grandma knows a company from a country of 3 million people</p><p>&#8220;Why do you need curtains if you&#8217;re not doing anything shady?&#8221; (the case for a VPN)</p><p>How Surfshark made cybersecurity human when every competitor looked corporate and techy</p><p>Why they deliberately kept &#8220;VPN&#8221; out of the brand name from day one</p><p>The seven figure Mr Beast deal, basketballs included, and how they justified it</p><p>Why that Mr Beast video is still converting three years later</p><p>Working WITH data brokers? What Incogni actually does (and why it&#8217;s US focused)</p><p>Free VPNs and the &#8220;if you don&#8217;t pay, you&#8217;re the product&#8221; trap</p><p>From demand capture to growing the pie: the full playbook for 10K to 1M+ users</p><p>Who Surfshark is NOT for, and why enterprise goes to Nord</p><p>The Surfshark and Nord merger, and Lithuania&#8217;s quiet takeover of the VPN market</p><p>Why AI powered scams are now catching younger people, not just grandmas</p><p>No logs, external audits, and why they&#8217;re legally a Dutch company</p><p>Why the CMO still works customer support shifts</p><p>RESOURCES &amp; LINKS:</p><p>Surfshark: https://surfshark.com</p><p>MORE OF REGIMANTAS URBANAS:</p><p>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/regimantasurbanas/</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/regimantasu/</p><p>MORE OF ON THE MARGIN:</p><p>Website: https://www.themargin.tv</p><div class="apple-podcast-container" data-component-name="ApplePodcastToDom"><iframe class="apple-podcast episode-list" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://embed.podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042&quot;,&quot;isEpisode&quot;:false,&quot;imageUrl&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/podcast_1713090042.jpg&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; 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trap.</p><p>16:44 - The growth playbook: from 10K to a million users.</p><p>19:20 - The seven figure Mr Beast deal (with basketballs).</p><p>25:00 - How a bootstrapped company afforded huge creators.</p><p>28:30 - What comes after dominating every marketing channel.</p><p>30:04 - How AI scams now catch young people too.</p><p>32:36 - The $3 billion group and the Surfshark and Nord merger.</p><p>36:40 - No logs, audits, and why they are legally a Dutch company.</p><p>38:41 - The five year vision and staying close to your users.<br><br>Subscribe &amp; leave a comment if you made it this far!</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[A $25M Deepfake Scam Fooled This Accountant | NordVPN CTO Marijus Briedis & Ivan Patriki]]></title><description><![CDATA[Your Social Security number, credit card, and passport can be bought online for about 19 dollars.]]></description><link>https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/a-25m-deepfake-scam-fooled-this-accountant</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/a-25m-deepfake-scam-fooled-this-accountant</guid><pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 19:00:42 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/207930980/86859c4124add094b03e23b1668ce128.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your Social Security number, credit card, and passport can be bought online for about 19 dollars. The CTO of NordVPN explains how.</p><p>Marijus Briedis has spent nearly 10 years at Nord Security, starting as a DevOps engineer and rising to CTO of a company with over 2,000 employees and a whole suite of cybersecurity products behind the flagship VPN. In this episode, Marijus and Ivan Patriki go deep on how the dark web identity market actually works, why Nord deletes entire servers rather than hand data to governments, and what AI scams are going to look like next.</p><p>We cover:</p><p>Why NordVPN runs a no logs audit every year (and whether that&#8217;s normal or rare)</p><p>How a full identity (email, working credit card, ID) sells for around 19 dollars on the dark web</p><p>Why Nord pulled its servers out of India instead of complying with a data law</p><p>&#8220;Do free VPNs sell your data?&#8221; The economics that make it likely</p><p>The three pillars of the NordVPN app: connect, protect, monitor</p><p>Leaked cookies: the unsolved cybersecurity problem nobody talks about</p><p>Disinformation as a service, and how bot armies get built for 10 minutes of work</p><p>The 25 million dollar Zoom deepfake scam that fooled a Singapore accountant</p><p>Vishing: attackers calling your relatives to clone your voice</p><p>How to know if the girlfriend calling for a thousand dollars is really her</p><p>Why Marijus&#8217;s mom is NordVPN&#8217;s best QA tester</p><p>The &#8220;human firewall&#8221; and why tools alone won&#8217;t save you</p><p>Building a unicorn: why product and marketing have to go hand in hand</p><p>RESOURCES &amp; LINKS:</p><p>NordVPN: https://nordvpn.com</p><p>MORE OF MARIJUS BRIEDIS:</p><p>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marijusbriedis/</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marijusbriedis/</p><p>MORE OF ON THE MARGIN:</p><p>Website: https://www.themargin.tv</p><div class="apple-podcast-container" data-component-name="ApplePodcastToDom"><iframe class="apple-podcast episode-list" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://embed.podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042&quot;,&quot;isEpisode&quot;:false,&quot;imageUrl&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/podcast_1713090042.jpg&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;podcastTitle&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;podcastByline&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:3002,&quot;numEpisodes&quot;:51,&quot;targetUrl&quot;:&quot;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042?uo=4&quot;,&quot;releaseDate&quot;:&quot;2026-07-15T16:32:00Z&quot;}" src="https://embed.podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay *; encrypted-media *;" allowfullscreen="true"></iframe></div><p>Spotify:</p><iframe class="spotify-wrap podcast" data-attrs="{&quot;image&quot;:&quot;https://i.scdn.co/image/ab6765630000ba8a8ae2a21797ff2c72e773d006&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;subtitle&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;Podcast&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://open.spotify.com/show/77nHDRkVXrrrnq7Ivn5kWa&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;noScroll&quot;:false,&quot;isVideo&quot;:false}" src="https://open.spotify.com/embed/show/77nHDRkVXrrrnq7Ivn5kWa" frameborder="0" gesture="media" allowfullscreen="true" allow="encrypted-media" loading="lazy" data-component-name="Spotify2ToDOM"></iframe><p>Main Site: https://www.on-the-margin.com</p><p>MORE OF BOAZ SOBRADO: </p><p>Twitter: https://x.com/sobradob</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sobradob</p><p>Website: https://themargin.tv/boaz-sobrado</p><p>MORE OF IVAN PATRIKI: </p><p>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/artizt</p><p>Substack: https://substack.com/@artizt</p><p>Twitter: https://x.com/Ivan_patriki</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/artizt/?hl=en</p><p>TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ascended</p><p>Telegram: https://t.me/ivanpatriki</p><p>Timestamps:</p><p>00:00 - Inside the NordVPN headquarters.</p><p>00:40 - 10 years at Nord, from DevOps to CTO.</p><p>01:26 - More than a VPN: the full Nord Security suite.</p><p>04:16 - Does Nord sell your data? The no logs audit explained.</p><p>07:45 - When governments came knocking, Nord deleted the servers.</p><p>09:36 - Why a VPN alone won&#8217;t hide you online.</p><p>12:01 - What the dark web really is and how Nord monitors it.</p><p>14:09 - A full identity for 19 dollars: the leaked data market.</p><p>18:30 - Disinformation as a service and AI bot armies.</p><p>21:00 - Scam websites, fake bags, and the Black Friday spike.</p><p>24:17 - What scams look like in 10 years: voice, video, deepfakes.</p><p>26:54 - Is the girlfriend calling for money actually your girlfriend?</p><p>28:52 - What Nord is building to fight AI scams.</p><p>29:35 - Managing 1,000 engineers as CTO.</p><p>32:05 - Biggest lesson: product and marketing go hand in hand.</p><p>Make sure to like, comment, and share, and I&#8217;ll see you in the next one.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Creator of AGI, the Sophia Robot Told Me the Future | Ben Goertzel & Ivan Patriki On the Margin]]></title><description><![CDATA[Ben Goertzel coined the term "AGI" in a 2005 book, founded the field's first annual conference, and led the AI team that built Sophia, the humanoid robot granted citizenship by Saudi Arabia.]]></description><link>https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/the-creator-of-agi-the-sophia-robot</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/the-creator-of-agi-the-sophia-robot</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ivan Patriki]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2026 19:51:47 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/206413667/45c77ca3c5e219109d03cf1009883b4c.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>Ben Goertzel coined the term "AGI" in a 2005 book, founded the field's first annual conference, and led the AI team that built Sophia, the humanoid robot granted citizenship by Saudi Arabia. He now runs an open-source AGI project and SingularityNET, a blockchain network built on the bet that artificial general intelligence should never be owned by a handful of Silicon Valley labs.<br><br>Goertzel and Boaz Sobrado get into all of it.<br><br>We cover:<br><br>How Ben Goertzel coined the term "AGI" in a 2005 book that put it on the map<br><br>Leading the AI team behind Sophia, the robot granted Saudi citizenship<br><br>"The creation of machines as smart as people... is almost inevitable"<br><br>Why superintelligence could end in "utopia or annihilation"<br><br>Ray Kurzweil's 2029 prediction, and why Goertzel thinks we're on track<br><br>Which jobs get automated first once human-level AGI arrives (plumbers, roofers, electricians)<br><br>The one category of job that may never go away: human-to-human connection<br><br>"It'd be a great birthday present to get your kid" - on AI robot girlfriends<br><br>Cosmism, panpsychism, and why he thinks a superintelligence could already surround us<br><br>The "longevity escape velocity" pill and living for millions of years<br><br>Why he'd kill a rogue AGI to save his wife and kids<br><br>Why he thinks Sam Altman and Elon Musk both quietly abandoned "open" AI<br><br>Building AGI on a decentralized network spanning 50 countries and 10,000 people<br><br>"He was also funding Marvin Minsky and Noam Chomsky"<br><br>Launching Omega Claw, his new open-source persistent AI agent<br><br>RESOURCES &amp; LINKS:<br><br>SingularityNET: https://singularitynet.io<br><br>MORE OF BEN GOERTZEL:<br><br>Twitter/X: https://x.com/bengoertzel<br><br>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bengoertzel<br><br>MORE OF ON THE MARGIN:<br><br>Website: https://www.themargin.tv<br><br></span></p><div class="apple-podcast-container" data-component-name="ApplePodcastToDom"><iframe class="apple-podcast episode-list" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://embed.podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042&quot;,&quot;isEpisode&quot;:false,&quot;imageUrl&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/podcast_1713090042.jpg&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;podcastTitle&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;podcastByline&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:3406,&quot;numEpisodes&quot;:49,&quot;targetUrl&quot;:&quot;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042?uo=4&quot;,&quot;releaseDate&quot;:&quot;2026-07-01T15:11:00Z&quot;}" src="https://embed.podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay *; encrypted-media *;" allowfullscreen="true"></iframe></div><p><span><br><br>Spotify:</span></p><iframe class="spotify-wrap podcast" data-attrs="{&quot;image&quot;:&quot;https://i.scdn.co/image/ab6765630000ba8a8ae2a21797ff2c72e773d006&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;subtitle&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;Podcast&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://open.spotify.com/show/77nHDRkVXrrrnq7Ivn5kWa&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;noScroll&quot;:false,&quot;isVideo&quot;:false}" src="https://open.spotify.com/embed/show/77nHDRkVXrrrnq7Ivn5kWa" frameborder="0" gesture="media" allowfullscreen="true" allow="encrypted-media" data-component-name="Spotify2ToDOM"></iframe><p><span><br><br>Main Site: https://www.on-the-margin.com<br><br>MORE OF BOAZ SOBRADO:<br><br>Twitter: https://x.com/sobradob<br><br>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sobradob<br><br>Website: https://themargin.tv/boaz-sobrado<br><br>MORE OF IVAN PATRIKI:<br><br>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/artizt<br><br>Substack: https://substack.com/@artizt<br><br>Twitter: https://x.com/Ivan_patriki<br><br>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/artizt/?hl=en<br><br>TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ascended<br><br>Telegram: https://t.me/ivanpatriki<br><br>TIMESTAMPS<br><br>0:00 - Cold open: "How important is it that humans survive?".<br><br>0:53 - Welcome, calling in from an island off Seattle.<br>1:12 - Transhumanist, cosmist, AGI builder: what Ben Goertzel actually does.<br>2:40 - Mathematics PhD to Hyperion: how his AGI project works.<br>4:16 - Coining "AGI" and leading the team behind Sophia the robot.<br>6:47 - "Almost inevitable": why human-level AGI is coming.<br>7:50 - Utopia or annihilation: the existential risk case for superintelligence.<br>12:29 - 2029 prediction, and which jobs get automated first.<br>16:15 - What young people should study to survive AGI.<br>19:42 - The jobs that survive: human-to-human connection.<br>21:19 - "When do I get an AI robot girlfriend?".<br>22:34 - Is building AGI the closest thing to building God?.<br>29:43 - The longevity escape velocity pill and living for millions of years.<br>34:20 - Would Putin rule for a thousand years with AGI on his side?.<br>36:31 - Why decentralized, open-source AGI is the real safeguard.<br>38:18 - Does humanity even need to keep existing?.<br>43:05 - Cosmism, panpsychism, and remote viewing, explained.<br>49:02 - Is AI doom just a scare tactic for investors?<br>53:09 - What actually separates AGI from Claude and ChatGPT.<br>1:02:36 - Nuclear bombs, AI governance, and a one-world government.<br>1:08:04 - How Ben actually makes money off SingularityNET.<br>1:11:36 - Sam Altman, Elon Musk, and the death of "open" AI.<br>1:15:11 - Jeffrey Epstein funded his AI research for 17 years.<br>1:18:24 - "Did you ever go to the island?".<br>1:20:22 - Final advice: build your own AI agent army.</span></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Bhutan Just Showed Me How the King is Building a Crypto City | Jigdrel Singay, Yu Zheng, & Ivan Patriki]]></title><description><![CDATA[Bhutan is going all-in on crypto, the city is called the Geluphy Mindfulness City.]]></description><link>https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/bhutan-just-showed-me-how-the-king</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/bhutan-just-showed-me-how-the-king</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ivan Patriki]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2026 16:32:06 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/206471469/79b58cd97d6ae580286d85f53b6bc812.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>Bhutan is going all-in on crypto, the city is called the Geluphy Mindfulness City. They mined their first Bitcoin in 2018, using clean hydropower, years before most governments knew what a blockchain was. Now the Himalayan kingdom of under a million people is building something no other country has attempted: a special administrative region roughly seven times the size of Singapore, with its own regulator, its own licensed bank, and a mandate to become the financial gateway for two billion people across South Asia.<br><br>Jigdrel Singay sits on the board of the Gelephu Mindfulness City Authority (GMCA), the body building what it calls &#8220;two systems, one country&#8221; out of the Bhutanese lowlands bordering India. Yu Dong Zheng runs DK Bank, the only bank licensed to operate inside the zone, built from day one to hold fiat and crypto in the same account, something most &#8220;crypto-friendly&#8221; banks still won&#8217;t do.<br><br>We cover:<br><br>Why GMCA calls itself &#8220;two systems, one country,&#8221; and what makes it legally separate from the rest of Bhutan The &#8220;Hong Kong for China, Singapore for Southeast Asia&#8221; pitch, and why South Asia&#8217;s 2 billion people don&#8217;t have a financial hub yet Bhutan has been mining Bitcoin with hydropower since 2019, years before most sovereign states paid attention Cheap, undocumented labor built Dubai. What builds a five-story-max Buddhist mindfulness city instead? Why Bhutan has no diplomatic relations with any of the five permanent UN Security Council members &#8220;We scan the wallet&#8221;: how DK Bank monitors on-chain and off-chain flows to keep bad actors out Will there ever be a &#8220;Bhutan coin&#8221;? Yu Dong Zheng&#8217;s answer: &#8220;Anything tactically is possible&#8221; &#8220;What if Bitcoin goes down and never comes back?&#8221; A banker&#8217;s contrarian answer Won&#8217;t two billion potential visitors turn Gelephu into another Delhi or Mumbai? The digital nomad visa program, still being tested, and why it isn&#8217;t rolling out to everyone yet Rent, groceries, cheeseburgers and Starlink: what life actually costs there right now<br><br>GUESTS: Jigdrel Singay: Board Member and Digital Assets &amp; Fintech Lead for the Gelephu Mindfulness City Authority (GMCA). Previously advanced blockchain and Web3 programs at Druk Holding &amp; Investments, Bhutan&#8217;s sovereign wealth fund, and sits on the Board of the Royal Stock Exchange of Bhutan.<br><br>Yu Dong Zheng (&#8221;YD&#8221;): CEO of DK Bank, the only bank licensed to operate inside Gelephu Mindfulness City, jointly regulated with Bhutan&#8217;s Royal Monetary Authority.<br><br>RESOURCES &amp; LINKS: Gelephu Mindfulness City: https://www.gmc.bt<br><br>DK Bank: https://www.digitalkidu.bt<br><br>MORE OF JIGDREL SINGAY: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jigdrelsingay/<br><br>GMC bio: https://gmc.bt/people/Jigdrel_Singay<br><br>MORE OF YU DONG ZHENG: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zhengyudong/<br><br>DK Bank on LinkedIn: https://bt.linkedin.com/company/dkbank<br><br>MORE OF ON THE MARGIN: Website: https://www.themargin.tv<br><br></span></p><div class="apple-podcast-container" data-component-name="ApplePodcastToDom"><iframe class="apple-podcast episode-list" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://embed.podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042&quot;,&quot;isEpisode&quot;:false,&quot;imageUrl&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/podcast_1713090042.jpg&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;podcastTitle&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;podcastByline&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:3406,&quot;numEpisodes&quot;:49,&quot;targetUrl&quot;:&quot;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042?uo=4&quot;,&quot;releaseDate&quot;:&quot;2026-07-01T15:11:00Z&quot;}" src="https://embed.podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay *; encrypted-media *;" allowfullscreen="true"></iframe></div><p><span><br><br>Spotify:</span></p><iframe class="spotify-wrap podcast" data-attrs="{&quot;image&quot;:&quot;https://i.scdn.co/image/ab6765630000ba8a8ae2a21797ff2c72e773d006&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;subtitle&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;Podcast&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://open.spotify.com/show/77nHDRkVXrrrnq7Ivn5kWa&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;noScroll&quot;:false,&quot;isVideo&quot;:false}" src="https://open.spotify.com/embed/show/77nHDRkVXrrrnq7Ivn5kWa" frameborder="0" gesture="media" allowfullscreen="true" allow="encrypted-media" data-component-name="Spotify2ToDOM"></iframe><p><span><br><br>Main Site: https://www.on-the-margin.com<br><br>MORE OF BOAZ SOBRADO: Twitter: https://x.com/sobradob<br><br>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sobradob<br><br>Website: https://themargin.tv/boaz-sobrado<br><br>MORE OF IVAN PATRIKI: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/artizt<br><br>Substack: https://substack.com/@artizt<br><br>Twitter: https://x.com/Ivan_patriki<br><br>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/artizt/?hl=en<br><br>TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ascended<br><br>Telegram: https://t.me/ivanpatriki<br><br>00:00 - Cold open: does the world need another Dubai?.<br>00:54 - Meet the GMCA board member and DK Bank&#8217;s CEO, and why South Asia&#8217;s 2 billion people don&#8217;t have a financial hub yet.<br>03:22 - &#8220;Two systems, one country&#8221;: Buddhism, mindfulness, and how the king got Bhutan to back a crypto free zone.<br>07:29 - Speed without skipping oversight: inside the regulator, and Bitcoin mining since 2019.<br>10:44 - Cheap labor built Dubai. Citizenship, mining targets, and Bhutan&#8217;s zero diplomatic ties with the UN Security Council.<br>19:02 -  Setting up a crypto company: compliance, licensing, and solving de-banking.<br>24:15 -Will there ever be a &#8220;Bhutan coin&#8221;? DK Bank&#8217;s roadmap, and what if Bitcoin never goes back up.<br>31:15 - What Bhutan can teach the world about mindful growth.<br>35:02 - Won&#8217;t two billion people turn Gelephu into another Delhi? The digital nomad program.<br>41:54 - The real cost of living, cheeseburgers and Starlink, and why choose Bhutan over Dubai, Bali or Miami.<br><br>All of Jigdrel&#8217;s and YD&#8217;s links will be in the description. Make sure to like, comment, and share, and I&#8217;ll see you in the next one.</span></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[SquareFi Founder: "We Have Only 6 Developers" Anton Lobintsev & Ivan Patriki On the Margin]]></title><description><![CDATA[There&#8217;s a company processing over to $350 million in transactions that spends less on AI all year than most startups spend on it in a single month.]]></description><link>https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/squarefi-founder-we-have-only-6-developers</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/squarefi-founder-we-have-only-6-developers</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ivan Patriki]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2026 20:44:56 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/206471511/2fae02169750152740861382095bd0ef.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>There&#8217;s a company processing over to $350 million in transactions that spends less on AI all year than most startups spend on it in a single month. Anton Lobintsev, co-founder of the stablecoin-based financial platform SquareFi, built it that way on purpose.<br><br>His company didn&#8217;t start as a fintech at all. It started as a platform to tokenize real estate in Georgia and Indonesia, until Anton and his co-founder realized nobody wanted to tokenize their buildings. They just wanted to accept stablecoin payments for them. So they rebuilt the whole business around that instead.<br><br>We cover:<br><br>The $500 million AI story that kicked off the &#8220;what are people doing with all these tokens?&#8221; running joke What SquareFi actually is: stablecoin custody, crypto-as-a-service, banking accounts, and cards, all under one platform Why 95% of SquareFi&#8217;s customers aren&#8217;t crypto-native businesses at all How a company with employees scattered across the world pays salaries in crypto when banks won&#8217;t touch the corridor Why venture capital firms use SquareFi to collect capital calls from LPs on three different continents From tokenizing buildings as NFTs to realizing the market wanted payments, not tokenization Why Canada, not Dubai or the Cayman Islands, became the regulatory home base How $50 million in transactions turned into roughly $300 million Why the company spends $5,000 to $7,000 a year on AI, not $50,000 The real reason companies claim to burn &#8220;$1 billion in tokens&#8221; (and why it&#8217;s probably marketing)<br><br>GUEST: Anton Lobintsev: Co-Founder &amp; Chief Product Officer of SquareFi, alongside co-founder and CEO Denis Spasibo. Serial entrepreneur since roughly 2007, having built and sold companies across telecom/internet, restaurants, and legal services before co-founding a real-estate tokenization platform that pivoted into SquareFi, a stablecoin-based financial platform now processing close to $300 million in transactions across 150+ countries.<br><br>RESOURCES &amp; LINKS: SquareFi: https://squarefi.co<br><br>MORE OF ANTON LOBINTSEV: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lobintsev/<br><br>MORE OF SQUAREFI: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/squarefii/<br><br>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/squarefi/<br><br>Telegram: https://t.me/Square_Fi<br><br>MORE OF ON THE MARGIN: Website: https://www.themargin.tv<br><br></span></p><div class="apple-podcast-container" data-component-name="ApplePodcastToDom"><iframe class="apple-podcast episode-list" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://embed.podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042&quot;,&quot;isEpisode&quot;:false,&quot;imageUrl&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/podcast_1713090042.jpg&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;podcastTitle&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;podcastByline&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:3406,&quot;numEpisodes&quot;:49,&quot;targetUrl&quot;:&quot;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042?uo=4&quot;,&quot;releaseDate&quot;:&quot;2026-07-01T15:11:00Z&quot;}" src="https://embed.podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay *; encrypted-media *;" allowfullscreen="true"></iframe></div><p><span><br><br>Spotify:</span></p><iframe class="spotify-wrap podcast" data-attrs="{&quot;image&quot;:&quot;https://i.scdn.co/image/ab6765630000ba8a8ae2a21797ff2c72e773d006&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;subtitle&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;Podcast&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://open.spotify.com/show/77nHDRkVXrrrnq7Ivn5kWa&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;noScroll&quot;:false,&quot;isVideo&quot;:false}" src="https://open.spotify.com/embed/show/77nHDRkVXrrrnq7Ivn5kWa" frameborder="0" gesture="media" allowfullscreen="true" allow="encrypted-media" data-component-name="Spotify2ToDOM"></iframe><p><span><br><br>Main Site: https://www.on-the-margin.com<br><br>MORE OF BOAZ SOBRADO: Twitter: https://x.com/sobradob<br><br>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sobradob<br><br>Website: https://themargin.tv/boaz-sobrado<br><br>MORE OF IVAN PATRIKI: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/artizt<br><br>Substack: https://substack.com/@artizt<br><br>Twitter: https://x.com/Ivan_patriki<br><br>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/artizt/?hl=en<br><br>TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ascended<br><br>Telegram: https://t.me/ivanpatriki<br><br>00:00 - Cold open: the $500 million AI story and the tokens joke.<br><br>00:22 - What SquareFi is: stablecoin custody, crypto-as-a-service, cards, and banking accounts.<br><br>03:58 - Two business models, why most customers aren&#8217;t crypto companies, and the Bangladesh remittance problem.<br><br>08:43 - Getting licensed in Canada, the &#8220;umbrella license&#8221; model, and why offshore jurisdictions don&#8217;t work.<br><br>14:20 - The roadmap: UAE, EU, and Singapore licenses.<br><br>16:28 - The origin story: tokenizing buildings, meeting his co-founder, and where the name SquareFi comes from.<br><br>23:26 - Finding early customers, and today&#8217;s transaction volume: roughly $300 million.<br><br>26:24 - What to look for in a co-founder, and the painful history of past breakups.<br><br>29:38 - Radical honesty as the glue of the partnership, and staying disciplined on spending.<br><br>33:24 - What investors are really looking for: founder, traction, team.<br><br>37:52 - How AI changed Anton&#8217;s workflow as a self-taught technical founder.<br><br>42:40 - The goal: a 50-person unicorn, and his CTO&#8217;s job managing people and AI agents.<br><br>46:05 - The real number: $5,000 to $7,000 spent on AI this year, and why.<br><br>50:35 - Why licenses are only 10% of the work, and launching a stablecoin through Brale.<br><br>54:54 - Founder advice: find people who cover your weaknesses, hire freelancers, and stay transparent.<br><br>1:01:19 - Closing.<br><br>Make sure to like, comment, and share, and I&#8217;ll see you in the next one.</span></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[AI Is Replacing Casino Dealers & Dating? BetHog & FanDuel Founder Nigel Eccles with / Boaz Sobrado]]></title><description><![CDATA[Nigel and Boaz Sobrado explore how AI is set to transform gaming&#8212;and why virtual dealers could become one of the first AI experiences millions of people interact with every day.]]></description><link>https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/ai-is-replacing-casino-dealers-and</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.on-the-margin.com/p/ai-is-replacing-casino-dealers-and</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ivan Patriki]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2026 00:28:22 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/204977965/6bcd27df0a391870becfbaf6724ed8d6.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nigel and Boaz Sobrado explore how AI is set to transform gaming&#8212;and why virtual dealers could become one of the first AI experiences millions of people interact with every day.</p><p>Nigel explains why his company believes AI dealers can outperform human dealers, how crypto and stablecoins are reshaping the online casino industry, and why AI isn&#8217;t simply replacing jobs but evolving into a social layer that helps people learn, communicate, and build stronger relationships.</p><p>The conversation also dives into the future of AI-powered avatars, personalized digital companions, and a world where AI doesn&#8217;t replace human interaction&#8212;but enhances it by acting as a bridge between people.</p><p><strong>In this episode:</strong></p><ul><li><p>Why AI dealers could outperform human dealers in online casinos</p></li><li><p>The $15 billion live dealer market and why it&#8217;s ripe for disruption</p></li><li><p>How AI delivers a more personalized gaming experience</p></li><li><p>Why new players often prefer AI dealers over real ones</p></li><li><p>The future of AI-powered casino hosts and personalized avatars</p></li><li><p>How stablecoins are transforming online gaming payments</p></li><li><p>Why crypto has become the preferred payment rail for gaming companies</p></li><li><p>Public AI tables and the next generation of social gaming</p></li><li><p>Can AI improve the way humans communicate?</p></li><li><p>AI agents interacting with other AI agents in dating and social apps</p></li><li><p>Why AI could become one of the most effective tools for conflict resolution</p></li><li><p>What the future of AI looks like across gaming, finance, and everyday life</p></li></ul><p>If you enjoyed the conversation, subscribe to the channel and leave a comment with your biggest takeaway.<br><br><br><span>MORE OF NIGEL ECCLES:<br>X / Twitter: https://x.com/nigeleccles<br>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nigeleccles/<br>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nigeleccles/<br>Bethog: https://www.bethog.com<br><br>MORE OF ON THE MARGIN:<br>Website: https://www.themargin.tv<br></span></p><div class="apple-podcast-container" data-component-name="ApplePodcastToDom"><iframe class="apple-podcast episode-list" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://embed.podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin/id1713090042&quot;,&quot;isEpisode&quot;:false,&quot;imageUrl&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/podcast_1713090042.jpg&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; 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He describes himself as a "cultural spy" - someone who sees what others can't, moves between worlds most people never get access to, and uses art as a key to rooms that money alone won't open.<br>In this episode, Koceila pulls back the curtain on the art market most people never see - the scams, the speculation, the money laundering, the fake masterpieces sitting in museum collections, and why the richest people in the world buy art for reasons that have nothing to do with loving art. He also gets into the dark side of elite life: the drugs, the prostitution, the artists who destroy themselves after making it &#8212; and how he walked away from all of it.<br>Topics covered:<br><br>Why most expensive "pop art" is a scam &#8212; and how galleries know it<br>How art functions as a financial tool, tax vehicle, and money laundering mechanism<br>The $150M painting that might be a fake &#8212; and why no one can say it<br>What billionaires are actually buying when they buy art<br>The hidden art market vs. what the public sees<br>How self-made elites think differently than people born into money<br>Why charisma isn't what gets you into elite rooms &#8212; risk is<br>The Illuminati symbolism in his work and his journey through sacred plants and spirituality<br>The dark side of success: artists dying by suicide and OD, the "matrix" of Miami<br>How to use events like Cannes and Art Basel as leverage &#8212; not tourism<br>Salvador Dal&#237;, surrealism, and the spiritual vs. chemical path to creativity<br><br><br>MORE OF KOCEILA CHOUGAR:<br>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/koceilachougar/<br>Spotify:</span></p><iframe class="spotify-wrap artist" data-attrs="{&quot;image&quot;:&quot;https://i.scdn.co/image/ab6761610000e5eb3e59e3f7a385dbe50023d9af&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Koceila Chougar&quot;,&quot;subtitle&quot;:&quot;Artist&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://open.spotify.com/artist/6HjDnaMCDzaWLyQ9aVWeg7&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;noScroll&quot;:false,&quot;isVideo&quot;:false}" src="https://open.spotify.com/embed/artist/6HjDnaMCDzaWLyQ9aVWeg7" frameborder="0" gesture="media" allowfullscreen="true" allow="encrypted-media" data-component-name="Spotify2ToDOM"></iframe><p><span><br>Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/koceila-chougar<br>Aersper: https://www.artsper.com/us/contemporary-artists/france/121239/koceila-chougar<br><br>MORE OF ON THE MARGIN:<br>Website: https://www.themargin.tv<br></span></p><div class="apple-podcast-container" data-component-name="ApplePodcastToDom"><iframe class="apple-podcast episode-list" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://embed.podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin/id1713090042&quot;,&quot;isEpisode&quot;:false,&quot;imageUrl&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/podcast_1713090042.jpg&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;podcastTitle&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;podcastByline&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:7718,&quot;numEpisodes&quot;:47,&quot;targetUrl&quot;:&quot;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin-boaz-sobrado-ivan-patriki/id1713090042?uo=4&quot;,&quot;releaseDate&quot;:&quot;2026-06-23T15:30:00Z&quot;}" src="https://embed.podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-the-margin/id1713090042" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay *; encrypted-media *;" allowfullscreen="true"></iframe></div><p><span><br>Spotify:</span></p><iframe class="spotify-wrap podcast" data-attrs="{&quot;image&quot;:&quot;https://i.scdn.co/image/ab6765630000ba8a8ae2a21797ff2c72e773d006&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;subtitle&quot;:&quot;On The Margin | Boaz Sobrado &amp; Ivan Patriki&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;Podcast&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://open.spotify.com/show/77nHDRkVXrrrnq7Ivn5kWa&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;noScroll&quot;:false,&quot;isVideo&quot;:false}" src="https://open.spotify.com/embed/show/77nHDRkVXrrrnq7Ivn5kWa" frameborder="0" gesture="media" allowfullscreen="true" allow="encrypted-media" data-component-name="Spotify2ToDOM"></iframe><p><span><br>Substack: https://www.on-the-margin.com<br><br>MORE OF BOAZ SOBRADO:<br>Twitter: https://x.com/sobradob<br>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sobradob/<br>Website: https://themargin.tv/boaz-sobrado<br><br>MORE OF IVAN PATRIKI:<br>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/artizt<br>Substack: https://substack.com/@artizt<br>Twitter: https://x.com/Ivan_patriki<br>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/artizt/?hl=en<br>TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ascended<br>Telegram: https://t.me/ivanpatriki<br><br><br>00:00 - Cold open: scams, money laundering, and the $100K painting<br>01:24 - Koceila introduces himself: artist, musician, cultural spy<br>03:29 - How to tell if art is a scam vs. a real investment<br>05:07 - Speculation in the art market<br>06:51 - Why art prices explode after an artist dies<br>07:24 - "Do your clients buy art for money laundering?"<br>10:32 - What makes billionaires different from average people<br>13:42 - Is charisma the key to getting in the room? No.<br>15:10 - The Illuminati symbolism, sacred plants, and spiritual awakening<br>22:26 - How collectors are drawn to his art's energy<br>24:51 - Art Basel Miami: what it's actually like inside<br>27:30 - The dark side of the ultra-wealthy<br>30:21 - Why tech/crypto elites buy less art than old money<br>33:15 - Billionaires warning him not to exhibit &#8212; and why<br>37:14 - Work ethic: the only thing that separates artists who make it<br>43:03 - How to use Cannes Film Festival as a creator<br>46:14 - What percentage of abstract artists are on drugs when they create?<br>48:09 - Salvador Dal&#237;, surrealism, and the spiritual path to creativity<br>50:22 - Final advice: connect with your soul, become a magnet<br><br>Subscribe &amp; leave a review if you made it this far</span></p>]]></content:encoded></item></channel></rss>